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U.S. military grossly underestmates N. Korean military strength and the level of Russian supports to N Korea and will loose the war like in Vietnam
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Ben
2017-04-15 15:28:01 UTC
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The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.

U.S. underestimated the commitments from China and the Soviet to N. Vietnam and
VC/NVA strength in 1965 and lost the war. By 1968, NVAs almost overran Khe Sanh. Had U.S. troops stayed there, Giap will have his 100,000 troops captured the 2500 U.S. Marines in Khe Sanh. Ho Chi Minh once said to Stanley Karnow that he is willing to have 10 men died to kill one American, and Kim Song Il would say the same. When U.S. casualties passed 10,000, U.S. congress, liberals, and students will help pass the law to terminate military budget in Korea.

When the U.S. does not follow the rules of war by Sun Tze and it can not win. In war, when the enemy is strong, you seek peace. When the enemy is week, you break the peace treaty and destroy them to win. Like stock market, you buy low and sell high, don't buy high and sell low. In war, fight when enemy is weak, and peace when enemy is strong.
N. Vietnam signed the Paris peace accord in 1973, then when South Vietnam was weakened by military aids cut, they broke the treaty, made the kill and won the war.
When Vietnam and N Korea was weakened by the collapse of the Warsaw pact in 1992, the U.S. refused to break the peace treaties in order to win the war. When China invaded Vietnam, the U.S. refused to join China to win the Vietnam war. It did the reverse by threatening China in South China sea. U.S. government does not know how to fight war and should never be allowed to go to war except to defend invasion to its 50 states.
Today N. Korea is too strong for the U.S. to win. It is not wise to fight against N. Korea when Russia is angry because of the Syrian bombing. Russia said that it will attack the U.S. if the U.S. attacked its allies. Attacking N. Korea will be too risky. Trump is not popular and he now has too many enemy in both Dem and Republican parties. If U.S. casualties become high, U.S. congress would impeach Trump and put him in prison.
Ben
2017-04-15 15:35:14 UTC
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The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
U.S. underestimated the commitments from China and the Soviet to N. Vietnam and
VC/NVA strength in 1965 and lost the war. By 1968, NVAs almost overran Khe Sanh. Had U.S. troops stayed there, Giap will have his 100,000 troops captured the 2500 U.S. Marines in Khe Sanh. Ho Chi Minh once said to Stanley Karnow that he is willing to have 10 men died to kill one American, and Kim Song Il would say the same. When U.S. casualties passed 10,000, U.S. congress, liberals, and students will help pass the law to terminate military budget in Korea.
When the U.S. does not follow the rules of war by Sun Tze and it can not win. In war, when the enemy is strong, you seek peace. When the enemy is week, you break the peace treaty and destroy them to win. Like stock market, you buy low and sell high, don't buy high and sell low. In war, fight when enemy is weak, and peace when enemy is strong.
N. Vietnam signed the Paris peace accord in 1973, then when South Vietnam was weakened by military aids cut, they broke the treaty, made the kill and won the war.
When Vietnam and N Korea was weakened by the collapse of the Warsaw pact in 1992, the U.S. refused to break the peace treaties in order to win the war. When China invaded Vietnam, the U.S. refused to join China to win the Vietnam war. It did the reverse by threatening China in South China sea. U.S. government does not know how to fight war and should never be allowed to go to war except to defend invasion to its 50 states.
Today N. Korea is too strong for the U.S. to win. It is not wise to fight against N. Korea when Russia is angry because of the Syrian bombing. Russia said that it will attack the U.S. if the U.S. attacked its allies. Attacking N. Korea will be too risky. Trump is not popular and he now has too many enemy in both Dem and Republican parties. If U.S. casualties become high, U.S. congress would impeach Trump and put him in prison.
Trump is loosing supports from his voters because he abandoned the America First promise. He ordered the attack in Syria. Now Trump and his family are hated by his supporters, Dems, and the majority of Republicans. By removing key architects Steve Bannon and Kelley Ann Conway, he and his family will have no friends.
Rudy Canoza
2017-04-16 18:09:22 UTC
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Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic bombers B1, B2, B52s
[snip bullshit]
Trump is loosing supports from his voters because
*Losing* *support*, you illiterate cocksucker - not "loosing supports".
Ted
2017-04-16 18:27:08 UTC
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Post by Ben
Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100
strategic bombers B1, B2, B52s
[snip bullshit]
Trump is loosing supports from his voters because
*Losing* *support*, you illiterate cocksucker - not "loosing supports".
LOL. I've caught Hummel making the same error. But he blames it on
dyslexia. :)
Exoshit Missile (NOT forging jew kike sheinie pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein)
2017-04-15 19:44:38 UTC
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The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic
bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea
can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
The North will OVERWHELM the South and nuke the shit out of them
before anybody gets a chance to react.
Sick old pedo Andrew "Andrzej" Baron (aka "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe")
2017-04-15 20:01:33 UTC
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The North will OVERWHELM the South and nuke the shit out of them
before anybody gets a chance to react.
Really, you dumb shiteating PEDO? Really?
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2017-04-15 20:04:12 UTC
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The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic
bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea
can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
The North will OVERWHELM the South and nuke the shit out of them
before anybody gets a chance to react.
Well farted again, you ridiculous housebound psychotic idiot! LOL
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Bill Flett
2017-04-16 18:11:35 UTC
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Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic
bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea
can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
The North will OVERWHELM the South and
Bullshit.
Gunner Asch
2017-04-16 18:41:05 UTC
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 11:11:35 -0700, Bill Flett
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Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic
bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea
can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
The North will OVERWHELM the South and
Bullshit.
The North will...will devistate Seoul, at which point..all the cities
and military depots and ports in the North will be turned into
blackened landscapes that look like the face of the moon.

At that point..the border will be demolished by military forces on
both sides and millions of northerners will be fleeing south as fast
as they can. Need we remind the readers of what happened when the
wall between West and East Berlin fell?

East Berlin emptied like a sack of rice with one end cut off.




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Klaus Schadenfreude
2017-04-16 19:21:38 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:44:38 -0700, "Exoshit Missile (NOT forging jew
kike sheinie pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein)"
Post by Exoshit Missile (NOT forging jew kike sheinie pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein)
Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic
bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea
can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
The North will OVERWHELM the South and nuke the shit out of them
before anybody gets a chance to react.
Two possible scenarios.

North Korea will accidentally nuke itself and vaporize the Fat Kid.
Internal power struggle results.

...or...

North Korea will attack the South. We'll destroy its entire air force
in the first hour, and destroy anything capable of launching a missile
or shooting down a plane in the next three. At that point China will
protest and things will grind to a halt.

North Korea hasn't fought a war in over 60 years, when they got the
shit kicked out of them and needed the Russians AND the Chinese to
help them. The tactics and equipment they can be bring to bear is
basically early twentieth century technology. The carrier group headed
their way has more firepower than the entire 1950's US Navy.

They're fucked and they know it.
Chinook Lover
2017-04-16 19:55:29 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:44:38 -0700, "Exoshit Missile (NOT forging jew
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Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic
bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea
can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
The North will OVERWHELM the South and nuke the shit out of them
before anybody gets a chance to react.
Two possible scenarios.
North Korea will accidentally nuke itself and vaporize the Fat Kid.
Internal power struggle results.
...or...
North Korea will attack the South. We'll destroy its entire air force
in the first hour, and destroy anything capable of launching a missile
or shooting down a plane in the next three. At that point China will
protest and things will grind to a halt.
North Korea hasn't fought a war in over 60 years, when they got the
shit kicked out of them and needed the Russians AND the Chinese to
help them. The tactics and equipment they can be bring to bear is
basically early twentieth century technology. The carrier group headed
their way has more firepower than the entire 1950's US Navy.
They're fucked and they know it.
I think the northerners know they're fucked but the fat kid is ignorant
of the fact. hell, he's a Dennis Rodman fan
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!Jones
2017-04-16 21:51:42 UTC
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 14:55:29 -0500, in alt.war.vietnam Chinook Lover
Post by Chinook Lover
I think the northerners know they're fucked but the fat kid is ignorant
of the fact. hell, he's a Dennis Rodman fan
We have to bear in mind that, if we attack N.K., we will be the
aggressors... or thus the world will view us. The North Koreans will
be seen as a people standing heroically, defending their homeland. We
will look like Hitler attacking Poland.

Jones
RD Sandman
2017-04-16 20:07:05 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:44:38 -0700, "Exoshit Missile (NOT forging jew
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Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic
bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea
can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
The North will OVERWHELM the South and nuke the shit out of them
before anybody gets a chance to react.
Two possible scenarios.
North Korea will accidentally nuke itself and vaporize the Fat Kid.
Internal power struggle results.
...or...
North Korea will attack the South. We'll destroy its entire air force
in the first hour, and destroy anything capable of launching a missile
or shooting down a plane in the next three. At that point China will
protest and things will grind to a halt.
North Korea hasn't fought a war in over 60 years, when they got the
shit kicked out of them and needed the Russians AND the Chinese to
help them. The tactics and equipment they can be bring to bear is
basically early twentieth century technology. The carrier group headed
their way has more firepower than the entire 1950's US Navy.
They're fucked and they know it.
The problem is that the Fat Kid doesn't know and wouldn't understand it.
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!Jones
2017-04-16 21:38:20 UTC
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:07:05 -0500, in alt.war.vietnam RD Sandman
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The problem is that the Fat Kid doesn't know and wouldn't understand it.
Yeah, I suspect that they would sustain catastrophic damage; however,
it won't matter... to them. If the other guy is willing to die and
doesn't care if he can take you out, he can probably do it.

The point we have to remember is that the North Koreans will be
fighting on their home turf; therein lies great moral strength. If
N.K. actually attacked the U.S. homeland, it would be different.

Jones
Klaus Schadenfreude
2017-04-16 22:07:17 UTC
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:07:05 -0500, in alt.war.vietnam RD Sandman
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The problem is that the Fat Kid doesn't know and wouldn't understand it.
Yeah, I suspect that they would sustain catastrophic damage; however,
it won't matter... to them.
So you think they're suicidal?
Post by !Jones
If the other guy is willing to die and
doesn't care if he can take you out, he can probably do it.
We're not talking Imperial Japanese Army here. We're talking about
generals with medals for "Hero of Chicken Production 1973"
Post by !Jones
The point we have to remember is that the North Koreans will be
fighting on their home turf; therein lies great moral strength. If
N.K. actually attacked the U.S. homeland, it would be different.
Um, I thought that's what we were talking about. the United States of
American NEVER invades first, mister.
Chinook Lover
2017-04-16 23:37:00 UTC
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:07:05 -0500, in alt.war.vietnam RD Sandman
Post by RD Sandman
The problem is that the Fat Kid doesn't know and wouldn't understand it.
Yeah, I suspect that they would sustain catastrophic damage; however,
it won't matter... to them.
So you think they're suicidal?
no fanatical
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Post by !Jones
If the other guy is willing to die and
doesn't care if he can take you out, he can probably do it.
We're not talking Imperial Japanese Army here. We're talking about
generals with medals for "Hero of Chicken Production 1973"
Post by !Jones
The point we have to remember is that the North Koreans will be
fighting on their home turf; therein lies great moral strength. If
N.K. actually attacked the U.S. homeland, it would be different.
Um, I thought that's what we were talking about. the United States of
American NEVER invades first, mister.
right...never...never right
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2017-04-16 21:59:16 UTC
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Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic
bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea
can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
The North will OVERWHELM the South and nuke the shit out of them
before anybody gets a chance to react.
Two possible scenarios.
North Korea will accidentally nuke itself and vaporize the Fat Kid.
Internal power struggle results.
Unlikely.
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...or...
North Korea will attack the South. We'll destroy its entire air force
in the first hour, and destroy anything capable of launching a missile
or shooting down a plane in the next three. At that point China will
protest and things will grind to a halt.
North Korea hasn't fought a war in over 60 years, when they got the
shit kicked out of them and needed the Russians AND the Chinese to
help them. The tactics and equipment they can be bring to bear is
basically early twentieth century technology. The carrier group headed
their way has more firepower than the entire 1950's US Navy.
They're fucked and they know it.
The South is fucked and they KNOW they're fucked...Seoul is only 20
miles from the border with the North...a preemptive nuclear strike
takes just minutes.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2017-04-16 22:12:58 UTC
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Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic
bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea. Like N. Vietnam, N. Korea
can draft all men and women at age 15 to build a force with 1 million troops.
The North will OVERWHELM the South and nuke the shit out of them
before anybody gets a chance to react.
Two possible scenarios.
North Korea will accidentally nuke itself and vaporize the Fat Kid.
Internal power struggle results.
Unlikely.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
...or...
North Korea will attack the South. We'll destroy its entire air force
in the first hour, and destroy anything capable of launching a missile
or shooting down a plane in the next three. At that point China will
protest and things will grind to a halt.
North Korea hasn't fought a war in over 60 years, when they got the
shit kicked out of them and needed the Russians AND the Chinese to
help them. The tactics and equipment they can be bring to bear is
basically early twentieth century technology. The carrier group headed
their way has more firepower than the entire 1950's US Navy.
They're fucked and they know it.
The South is fucked and they KNOW they're fucked...Seoul is only 20
miles from the border with the North...a preemptive nuclear strike
takes just minutes.
If they can get it off the ground.

Meanwhile, targeting computers already have the coordinates of
Pyongyang, Phyongsong, Suncho, Sinuiju, Wonsan, and half a dozen other
tasty sites.

The Fat Kid dynasty ends abruptly.
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2017-04-16 22:14:16 UTC
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The South is fucked and they KNOW they're fucked
You are PROJECTING! ...and you KNOW it, you fucked up housebound psychotic
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2017-04-16 18:05:57 UTC
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On 4/15/2017 8:28 AM, Ben wrote:

You stupid illiterate fuck: the verb is *lose*, not "loose".
Post by Ben
The U.S. will need 500,000 troops, 5 aircraft carriers, and 100 strategic bombers B1, B2, B52s to defeat N. Korea.
Fuck off, blowjob. We don't need an unconditional defeat of North
Korea. All we'd need is the major destruction of their offensive
military capability.

Fuck, why do you work so hard at being stupid?
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